Closed talks shut out public from Belleayre plan in Catskills
Closed talks shut out public from Belleayre plan in Catskills
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First published: Sunday, July 22, 2007 |
Curiously, after eight years of controversy and very public discussion, it seems there's no news these days about Dean Gitter's proposed $400 million development in the Catskills.
But no news about Gitterland, located on either side of the state-owned Belleayre Ski Resort, is not necessarily good news. There is stuff happening. It's just that negotiations among Gitter's people, state and New York City interests, and a coterie of environmental watchdogs have gone behind closed doors. the past several months there's been a self-imposed gag order on these talks until something is resolved. The buzz down in the Catskills, though, is that they're close. It's more than a little disconcerting that closed-door meetings are required to do what is ultimately the people's business. Progress may well happen, but at what price? The fear is that we may not know until it's too late. Gitter, you'll recall, has been trying since 1999 to develop a mega-resort on either side of Belleayre, but ran into a wall of environmental opposition from the beginning. Now it does seem something Gitter-like will be going up on that mountain after all. Until an announcement is made, however, what form it might take in terms of footprint and scope remains pure though enticing speculation. What's moved things along, we're told, is that Governor Spitzer wants it to happen, and he brings the treasury of the kingdom to help out. My friends down at the Phoenicia Times near Belleayre are saying the main deal maker is a proposed "extreme makeover" of the state-owned Belleayre Ski Resort. The number being bandied about is $47 million in state money. Of course, with the gag order in place, there is no confirmation. All of this remains juicy scuttlebutt. Negotiating stakeholders do include a proven skeptical consortium of environmental interests who have been generally opposed to much of the project, especially its gigantic scale and the impact it would have on the quality of life and the quality of water in the region, as well as on the New York City water supply. Directly beneath the east side of the proposed development in Shandaken is the Esopus Creek, which empties into the New York City watershed's Ashokan Reservoir. A short distance away is the edge of the rugged forever wild Catskill Park. The biggest issue environmental opponents have with Gitter's massive proposal is the plan to build on the east side of Belleayre. They want nothing there at all. In fact, they'd like to see Gitter's holdings on the east side turned into forever wild forest preserve. That would conform to what we can call the "Hinchey Rule." Last summer, after Gitter proposed reducing the size of the original plan to satisfy critics, Congressman Maurice Hinchey countered with the written view there should be no development on the east side at all because it is simply too environmentally sensitive. Gitter rejected that notion, stating he needed the east side otherwise the development did not make economic sense. But that was then. The state's proposal to create a dazzling ski center at Belleayre brings all new possibilities to the table. Supposedly, the ski center would feature a lodge at the base of the 2,500-foot mountain, instead of half-way up, as it is now. That would facilitate longer and better trails, and make a perfect fit for Gitter's golf courses and spas, conference centers and multiple types of housing and hotels as a year-around destination resort. The Catskill Mountain House of the 21st century. While these negotiations continue, the clock has been stopped on a hearing before a Department of Environmental Conservation administrative law judge to adjudicate a number of issues identified by opponents of the private development. Once that clock is restarted -- heralding a breakdown in closed-door negotiations -- a legal resolution that may or may not result in permits to build could take years of expensive litigation. So there's plenty of motivation to break the logjam now. Environmental lawyer Marc Gerstman is upbeat, but would only say "We're still talking, after all these months, we're still talking." Dean Gitter's lawyer Dan Ruzow added that he hasn't been so optimistic in years. Ah, but there are two new flies in the soup. Once neighboring Greene County got wind of the rumors about Belleayre in Ulster County, inter-county friction quickly developed. Greene County is home to two private ski resorts, Hunter Mountain and Ski Windham. The howls are loud and long that what the state supposedly proposes with Belleayre creates unfair competition. They may have a point, we'll see. So, whatever comes out of these closed-door negotiations is by no means the end of it, only the beginning of the next set of headaches for the state. LeBrun can be reached at 454-5453 or by e-mail at [email protected]. |
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STOP NYRI!! Hinchey Unveils Federal Legislation
For Immediate Release
February 5, 2007
To Stop NYRI Power Line Proposal
Introduces Three Bills To Ensure Federal Government
Won't Facilitate Power Line Project
Hundreds of local businesses, community and environmental organizations, elected officials, business groups and others in the communities along the path of this proposed line have come together to organize and fight to stop the NYRI proposal. Joining Hinchey at the press conference to announce the bills were: Christopher Cunningham, Sullivan County Legislative Chairman/Communities Against Regional Interconnect (CARI); Troy Bystrom, Upper Delaware Preservation Coalition (UDPC); Nina Guenste, SayNo2NYRI; and William Douglass, Upper Delaware Council (UDC).
Group wants to preserve Catskills, legacy
By Patricia Breakey
Delhi News Bureau
A group has formed to unite residents of the Catskill region in preserving the quality of life.
Catskill Mountainkeeper started with the idea that an advocate was needed for the 6,000-square-mile region that encompasses Delaware, Greene, Otsego, Schoharie, Sullivan and Ulster counties and a portion of Albany County, Wes Gillingham, organization spokesman, said last month.
"The Catskill Mountains have a regional identity that other areas in the state don’t have," Gillingham said. "We can take advantage of that by creating a regional task force."
Gillingham, a vegetable farmer, said he wants to work to protect the Catskills.
"I live here, I farm here, and I love living and working here," Gillingham said. "I want the Catskills always to have a quality of life my family and neighbors can enjoy.
"The last thing my neighbors and I want to do is fight traffic and see the farms and forest land taken over by haphazard development," he continued. "Some parents talk of wanting a better life for their children. I just want my kids to have some of the simple freedoms I had as a child.
"These mountains have really shaped the kind of people we are here in the Catskills, and now it is time for us to shape what these mountains will look like in 20 years and beyond," Gillingham said. "That’s why I decided to take on what I see as a crucial job for our region’s future."
Another Catskills farmer, Amy Kenyon, said recently that she "is hoping to work to give the people who live and work here a voice in what’s happening in their town. I want to see local folks getting involved. It’s their community, and it’s their issues." <!-- /* You may give each page an identifying name, server, and channel on the next lines. */ var titl=document.title; var re= new RegExp("?",'gi'); titl=titl.replace(re,''); var re= new RegExp("’",'gi'); titl=titl.replace(re," "); var s_pageName=titl; if (s_pageName=="LeatherStocking Ad"){ var s_pageName="";} var s_server="thedailystar.com" var loca=window.location.pathname; var loca_array=loca.split("/"); if (loca_array[3] == "obits") { var s_channel="Obits"; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3=""; if (loca_array[4] != "index.html"){ var s_prop1=loca_array[4];} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { if (loca_array[2] == "stories") { var s_channel="News Stories"; if (loca_array[3] != "index.html"){ var s_prop1=loca_array[3]; var s_prop2=titl; var s_prop3="";} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { if (loca_array[1] == "lifestyle") { var s_channel="Lifestyle Stories"; if (loca_array[2] != "index.html"){ var s_prop1=loca_array[2]; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3="";} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { if (loca_array[1] == "sports") { var s_channel="Sports Stories"; if (loca_array[2] != "index.html"){ var s_prop1=loca_array[2]; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3=titl;} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { if (loca_array[3] == "blotter") { var s_channel="Police Blotter"; if (loca_array[2] != "index.html"){ var s_prop1=loca_array[4]; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3="";} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { if (loca_array[1] == "opinion") { var s_channel="Opinion"; if ((loca_array[3] != "index.html") && (loca_array[3] != "lisa") && (loca_array[3] != "simonson")){ var s_prop1=loca_array[3]; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3="";} else { var s_prop1="";} } else { var s_channel=""; var s_prop1=""; var s_prop2=""; var s_prop3="";}}}}}} if ((s_prop1!="2006")&&(s_prop1!="2005")&&(s_prop1!="2004")&&(s_prop1!="2003")&&(s_prop1!="2002")&&(s_prop1!="2001")&&(s_prop1!="2000")&&(s_prop1!="1999")&&(s_prop1!="1998")){ s_prop1="";} var s_pageType="" var s_prop4="" var s_prop5="" /********* INSERT THE DOMAIN AND PATH TO YOUR CODE BELOW ************/ //--><!-- /* You may give each page an identifying name, server, and channel on the next lines. */ var s_pageName="LeatherStocking Ad"; var s_server='thedailystar.com' var s_channel='LeatherStocking Ad' var s_pageType='' var s_prop1='' var s_prop2='' var s_prop3='' var s_prop4='' var s_prop5='' /* E-commerce Variables */ var s_campaign='' var s_state='' var s_zip='' var s_events='' var s_products='' var s_purchaseID='' var s_eVar1='' var s_eVar2='' var s_eVar3='' var s_account='cnhithedailystar' //-->
Kenyon, president of Farm Catskills, a Delaware County-based group intended to strengthen farming in the region, added, "If our rural character is to survive, we need a good regional vision that protects our region’s wonderful vistas, open spaces and farmland _ the things that make us different."
Gillingham added that because the area is so large, "it’s hard to keep track of what’s happening on the other side of the mountains," so the group plans to utilize the Internet to keep in touch.
"We have a modern, capable website where people can register and become part of the group," Gillingham said.
Ramsay Adams, executive director, in a media release said, ``Our goal is to bring together people who have never talked with each other and have them join in the fight to preserve the Catskill way of life.’’
On its website, http://www.catskillmountainkeeper.org, the group will post updates on regional development news, operate online discussion boards and provide campaign-organizing advice and tools.
Registration is free, Gillingham said.
"Residents of the Catskills are as diverse as in any place on earth," Joe Martens, group chairman, said in a media release. "But one thing everyone can unite on is that this is a special region that needs its people speaking up so that its tremendous cultural and natural resources stay intact."
The group’s priority is to push for a comprehensive, regional vision that takes into account thinking about smart growth and wise use of the area’s natural resources, Martens said.
"We all know there’s a great deal of development pressure on the Catskills, but we also know there are good and bad options under review this very moment," Tom Alworth, a Catskill Mountainkeeper board member and Catskill Center for Conservation and Development executive director, said in a media release.
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Patricia Breakey can be reached at 746-2894 or at [email protected].
Welcome to the Threats to the Catskills Forum
What flora and fauna make the Catskills unique? What impact are people and businesses having on them? What can we do to protect the region as a whole, or just our own little corners of it? Environmentalists, enthusiasts, and everyday people will be discussing these questions and more in the environment forum. Won't you join us?
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Catskill Mountainkeeper Launches with a Mission
Build active network of citizens speaking out for the Catskills way of life
Group seeks to unite residents from all parts of the Catskills to protect
open space and promote smart growth in the region’s villages, mountains and valleys
Monticello (May 10, 2007) – Catskill Mountainkeeper, a grassroots group intended to unite the entire region’s residents in the battle to preserve the quality of life here, announced it is open for business today at a news conference in front of the Sullivan County Government Center.
“Residents of the Catskills are as diverse as in any place on earth, but one thing everyone can unite on is that this is a special region that needs its people speaking up so that its tremendous cultural and natural resources stay intact,” said Joe Martens, the group’s chairman. “Catskill Mountainkeeper will build an active network of citizens to make that happen.”
Martens also is the president of the Open Space Institute, one of several groups sponsoring Catskill Mountainkeeper.
The group’s key priority is to push for a comprehensive, regional vision that takes into account new thinking about smart growth and wise use of the area’s natural resources, Martens said. Working with other established groups, Catskill Mountainkeeper then will organize citizens across the region’s counties to contribute their ideas for the region’s future as part of that process.
At the news conference, members held poster-board cutouts of the region’s six counties (Delaware, Greene, Otsego, Schoharie, Sullivan, Ulster, plus a portion of Albany County, which is geographically in the Catskills), bringing them together in a symbolic illustration of the regional unity that the group plans to foster.
The group offers free membership in keeping with its goal of having a broad spectrum of citizen involvement.
“With a combination of the web and plain old shoe-leather organizing, our goal is to bring together people who have never talked with each other and have them join in the fight to preserve the Catskill way of life,” said Ramsay Adams, the executive director of the new group.
On its website, www.catskillmountainkeeper.org, the group will post updates on regional development news, operate on-line discussion boards and provide campaign-organizing advice and tools.
“We all know there’s a great deal of development pressure on the Catskills, but we also know there are good and bad options under review this very moment,” said Tom Alworth, another Catskill Mountainkeeper board member and the executive director of the Catskill Center for Conservation and Development, another sponsoring organization.
“When it’s out-of-scale, non-sustainable proposals like the massive casinos proposed for Sullivan County, Catskill Mountainkeeper can help get the word out – and make sure that those who want clear air, open space and a great quality of life win the day for our region,” Alworth added.
“I live here, I work here, and I love living and working here, and I want the Catskills always to be a place I am proud to live in,” said Wes Gillingham, Catskill Mountainkeeper’s program director and also the co-owner of the Wild Roots Farm in Sullivan County.
“The last thing my neighbors and I want to do is fight traffic, see the countryside taken over by haphazard development or breathe polluted air – so that’s why I decided to take on this job,” said Gillingham, “Our vision of the Catskills is for economic success by focusing on the industries that we do best, like the resurgence of farming, tourism based on the enjoyment of our natural beauty and vibrant downtowns.”
Another Catskills farmer, Amy Kenyon, said she is looking to Catskill Mountainkeeper to provide farmers and other local residents with the tools to get their voice heard.
Kenyon also is president of Farm Catskills, a Delaware County-based group intended to strengthen farming in the region. “If our rural character is to survive, we need a good regional vision that protects our region’s wonderful vistas, open spaces and farmland – the things that make us different,” said Kenyon.
Patrick H. Dollard, the chief executive officer of The Center for Discovery – Sullivan County’s largest employer – also endorsed Catskill Mountainkeeper.
The group will open an office in Youngsville, Sullivan County, this June. Other major sponsoring organizations are the Natural Resources Defense Council and Audubon New York.
Catskill Mountainkeeper group launches
Monticello – A new grassroots group designed to preserve the quality of life in the Catskills has been formed.
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Catskill Mountainkeeper was launched in front of the Sullivan County Government Center in Monticello on Thursday.
“Residents of the Catskills are as diverse as in any place on earth, but one thing everyone can unite on is that this is a special region that needs its people speaking up so that its tremendous cultural and natural resources stay intact,” said Joe Martens, the group’s chairman. “Catskill Mountainkeeper will build an active network of citizens to make that happen.”
Martens is also the president of the Open Space Institute, one of the several groups sponsoring Catskill Mountainkeeper.
The group’s key priority is to push for a comprehensive, regional vision that takes into account new thinking about smart group and wise use of the area’s natural resources, he said.
“We all know there’s a great deal of development pressure on the Catskills, but we also know there are good and bad options under review this very moment,” said Tom Alworth, another Catskill Mountainkeeper board member and the executive director of the Catskill Center for Conservation and Development. “When it’s out-of-scale, non-sustainable proposals like the massive casinos proposed for Sullivan County, Catskill Mountainkeeper can help get the word out – and make sure that those who want clean air, open space and a great quality of life win the day for our region.”
“I live here, I work here, and I love living and working here, and I want the Catskills always to be a place I am proud to live in,” said Wes Gillingham, Catskills Mountainkeeper’s program director and also the co-owner of the Wild Roots Farm in Sullivan County.
“The last thing my neighbors and I want to do is fight traffic, see the countryside taken over by haphazard development or breathe polluted air.”
NY Post Slams Catskill Casino Scheme
http://www.nypost.com/seven/02212007/postopinion/editorials/the_govs_gambling_goof_editorials_.htm
February 21, 2007 -- Gov. Spitzer is getting into bed with the St. Regis Mohawks, giving the green light to a partnership between the upstate Indian tribe and a private firm to build a $600 million casino at the former Monticello Raceway in the economically troubled Catskills.
Bad move.
We're no fans of legalized gambling; it's socially corrosive on several levels.
But that horse is out of the barn. Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and upstate New York already have casinos galore, and it's clear that the N.Y.C. area will, too - even if it means subverting the state Constitution's ban on casinos via compacts with Indian tribes.
However, doing a deal with this particular tribe - with its extended history of often-violent criminality - is a travesty.
Over the past eight years, the feds have cited the St. Regis Mohawks in connection with a $687 million smuggling operation involving illegal liquor, cigarettes and guns.
They've also done a brisk business smuggling people - transporting more than 3,600 illegal aliens from China into America through the St. Regis reservation, which transverses the U.S.-Canadian border along the St. Lawrence River.
They've also occasionally engaged in shoot-outs with the New York State Police, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canadian army.
Not exactly good neighbors, we'd say.
Yet the last two governors have worked overtime to expand the Mohawks' control over casino gambling in New York.
Yes, the Catskills need economic help.
And there's no denying the potential revenue lure of this casino, which would be closer to the metropolitan area than either Atlantic City or Foxwoods.
But it would be fully 400 miles from the St. Regis reservation; in no credible sense is it part of tribal lands - logically, a prerequisite for the establishment of an Indian-owned casino.
And while the 1988 federal Indian Gaming Regulatory Act allows for some latitude in this regard, U.S. Interior Secretary Dirk Kempthorne - who must sign off on any deal - has said lawmakers didn't intend to OK casinos so far from tribal land.
All of which suggests that the court battles are far from over. Competing casino interests, opponents of legalized gambling and local residents fearful of the casino's impact on traffic and other conditions all have vowed a fight.
We hope they wage it with vigor.
Happily, there's no sign that Kempthorne will rush to any decision in the matter. In fact, the matter will likely stay up in the air for years.
Which means there's time enough for the state to do this right.
If casino gambling is as inevitable as it appears, then it's time to amend the state Constitution to open gambling to everyone - not just dubious partners like the St. Regis Mohawks.
This would be an extended process: Two successively elected Legislatures would have to agree, and then there would be a statewide referendum.
There would be no guarantees, to be sure.
But it's the way to go.
Meanwhile, Spitzer needs to read the relevant State Police files on the St. Regis Mohawk tribe.
When he does, he'll come to his senses quickly enough - and ice this project.